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Posted by Daly de Gagne
Oct 11, 2013 at 02:25 PM

 

Phil Libin’s story is interesting. He was losing his shirt on EN, and only an 11th hour investor saved the day, keeping the product alive.

I have a lot of respect for what has been accomplished in terms of software engineering and marketing. No doubt it is a profitable result. And still, the premium version is relatively inexpensive for what is on offer, compared with many new productivity related subscription type programs which charge much for relatively less.

The Trunk may be EN’s way of recognizing its limitations as an information manager. It’s ingenious and some of The Trunk programs are nifty.

If I was Libin, I’d begin to take seriously what all of us info and outliner wonks have been saying for years. An infocentric version of EN could be offered for say, a dollar more per month than the regular premium. I suspect the additional revenue would make it worthwhile.

Ariadne had a lot of potential to develop into a heavier duty info manager. Unfortunately, the latest version shows that the ingenuity of its earlier incarnations has been lost. 4.0 versions of Ariadne may be among the best note taking apps on the market for those who want something more than bare bones.

Yesterday I spent several hours working with WhizFolders, relieved at having resolved my anxiety around EN and always having to set it up to do what it should have in the first place. I accomplished a fair bit, and for the first time in months felt like I might be a real writer if I wasn’t careful.  :-)

Daly

But I doubt that will happen. Other programs will fill the void.

Daly

Hugh wrote:

>
>WSP wrote:
> >>
>>Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
>>
>>I am quite certain that
>>>neither Phil Libin, the Evernote CEO, nor any of his top bras have
>>>thought about this use—at least not seriously considered it.
>>
>>I have long since resigned myself, more or less cheerfully, to the fact
>>that I am really not Libin’s target demographic. (Nor, I suspect, is
>>anyone else on this forum.) When Libin and his top brass in 2008 began
>>to blather on about taking pictures of wine labels and expressed open
>>contempt for power-users, I became very upset and abandoned the program
>>for a number of years; and I notice more recently that he now routinely
>>denies that Evernote is even a note-taking program. Oh well. It’s a
>fine
>>program, and it obviously can be used for information-gathering (in
>>other words, note-taking) on a large scale. Nowadays I don’t
>>particularly mind if Libin seems to be obsessed with the lifestyle
>crowd
>>—as long as he doesn’t remove any of EN’s functionality while he
>tries
>>to gather in a zillion more users. Meanwhile, some of us will find ways
>>to use Evernote that he has never thought about. I confess I’m rather
>>pleased to be doing that. It’s my subtle form of revenge against the
>>wine-label obsessives.
>>
>>Bill
>>
> >I must admit I too have had vengeful thoughts - against those who
>transformed the original ‘tear-off-and-use’ Evernote, which I found
>pretty useful, into something that I find less useful. But the fact that
>the market hasn’t replaced the original like-for-like is perhaps an
>indication that I’m in a very small minority. And I suppose one must
>admire the boldness of those who conceived the current Evernote, its
>platform independence and its free/premium business model - I think they
>were amongst the first on a large scale - and who went out and raised a
>relatively large sum of money for a small-ish developer - $6m initially?
>- to bring their conception to reality.