Dr Andus
1/16/2013 1:00 pm
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Sure, but isn't that the effect of there not being an "ultimate outliner" or something reasonably close to it? I don't mean to engage in utopian yearning, I realise things move on and there never will be an "ultimate outliner" per se. But we could still have a common set up features that are considered to be the gold standard and which developers aspire to.
Also, I wasn't implying that the "ultimate outliner" would need to have a huge number of features. It's about having the right kind of features, and simplicity can be one of the criteria (e.g. to have a distraction-free mode, such as Scrivener).
Plus, to achieve general interoperability, one would need some sort of a community consensus between outliner developers, which I just can't see arising anytime soon (especially as development gets abandoned).
E.g. one thing that frustrates me is that I don't seem to be able to export and import outline items with notes from outliner to outliner without the notes being lost. Is there a way e.g. to export a Bonsai (or any other single-pane) outline with notes and import them into Freeplane (with notes preserved)? I haven't been able to do so with OPML or anything else that I tried. I can export them into RTF, but that seems to be it.
Re the original thread question, after so many years working with
different tools, I am less interested in seeing more operational
features being added, than in the interoperability of different
applications.
Sure, but isn't that the effect of there not being an "ultimate outliner" or something reasonably close to it? I don't mean to engage in utopian yearning, I realise things move on and there never will be an "ultimate outliner" per se. But we could still have a common set up features that are considered to be the gold standard and which developers aspire to.
Also, I wasn't implying that the "ultimate outliner" would need to have a huge number of features. It's about having the right kind of features, and simplicity can be one of the criteria (e.g. to have a distraction-free mode, such as Scrivener).
Plus, to achieve general interoperability, one would need some sort of a community consensus between outliner developers, which I just can't see arising anytime soon (especially as development gets abandoned).
E.g. one thing that frustrates me is that I don't seem to be able to export and import outline items with notes from outliner to outliner without the notes being lost. Is there a way e.g. to export a Bonsai (or any other single-pane) outline with notes and import them into Freeplane (with notes preserved)? I haven't been able to do so with OPML or anything else that I tried. I can export them into RTF, but that seems to be it.