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Ulysses, infected by a trendy virus, changes to all-Subscription model

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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 11, 2017 at 05:11 PM

 

I was just checking out the comments on the “new” Ulysses on the App Store. Seems evenly split between users eager to support Ulysses and those who hate the move to subscription. What I found odd is the “To In-App Purchases” listing:

1. Annual Subscription: $29.99
2. Annual Subscription: $39.99
3. Six Months $10.99
4. Monthly: $4.99

There’s no $20 there. And how is six months only $10.99? Weird.

Steve Z.

 


Posted by apb123
Aug 11, 2017 at 05:11 PM

 

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I use Keyboard Maestro…works perfectly once you have it set up

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 11, 2017 at 05:36 PM

 

I was just reading Max’s take on the change to subscription for Ulysses:

https://medium.com/building-ulysses/why-were-switching-ulysses-to-subscription-47f80b07a9cd

Interesting but he never acknowledges something that I think is pretty important: Developers have out-sourced the job of bug-hunting onto their users. In the old days, bugs had to be exterminated before the product was shipped, because there was no way to simply update with fixes. Max makes it sound like fixing bugs is a benefit to the user, that the user should pay for. In fact, releasing software with bugs is a benefit to the developer.

Just two more cents…

Steve Z.

 


Posted by Marcos D.
Aug 11, 2017 at 06:04 PM

 

You may remember that in 2012 Mindjet tried to move their leading product Mindmanager to subscription model; reaction from their users were so bad that they decided to move back to perpetual licences. Mindmanager was (and still is) an expensive product and the subscription would cost ~U$190/year. After 5 years, the development is so slow as it was in the past and Mac version in far behind the Windows version.

And talking about subscription model, another problem is that we have no control over the price after we subscribe; see Lastpass, for instance, doubling the price from US$12 to US$24/year; if you have build your workflow around a product, it may not be easy to move away and so you have to close your eyes and accept the price increase.

Marcos D.

 


Posted by Paul Korm
Aug 11, 2017 at 07:57 PM

 

There is no $20 (the supposed 50% for existing customers) because they spoofed the numbers.  The 50% discount applies to the *monthly* fee—so in-app the purchase screen says $2.50/month (roughly 50% of the $4.99 monthly fee)—and that is grossed up to the $29.99 that you see in the AppStore.  So existing customer *save* 50% on monthly fees but on an annual basis paying $29.99 is actually 25% off the standard $39.99 fee.  It’s fun with numbers, and very sleazy in my opinion.  If you read the Ulysses blog post you’ll never see the truth.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:
I was just checking out the comments on the “new” Ulysses on the App
>Store. Seems evenly split between users eager to support Ulysses and
>those who hate the move to subscription. What I found odd is the “To
>In-App Purchases” listing:
> >1. Annual Subscription: $29.99
>2. Annual Subscription: $39.99
>3. Six Months $10.99
>4. Monthly: $4.99
> >There’s no $20 there. And how is six months only $10.99? Weird.
> >Steve Z.

 


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