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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Dec 26, 2007 at 04:13 PM

 

I am wondering what this group thinks of as the top developments in the PIM/outliner world during the past 12 months. For me, two things stand out:

1. OneNote 2007 became commercially available in January.
2. Zoot 4.5 (32-bit version) beta was released over the summer and continues to be refined.

I’m sure others of you have your own top developments. What are they?

Steve Z.

 


Posted by Daly de Gagne
Dec 26, 2007 at 05:33 PM

 

Stephen, I’d agree with you re Zoot, especially as 2007 is the year I began to learn and use Zoot seriously. I hope it will continue to develop in a somewhat faster way, but it is worth waiting for.

I can’t comment on OneNote as I have never tried it.

2007 was the year of disillusionment with the far from graceful, not to mention untimely, death of ADM. Perhaps I should say “apparent” death, as we have had no official word, and both Eric and Arne, the two principals, have either disappeared or are just ignoring former loyal and trusted users. There are unque qualities to ADM that are not duplicated in other software.

I think this has been a year when we have seen Web2 apps start to take hold and proliferate as an option.

I like looking at them and playing, but this year I have got into USB sticks and carrying everything around my neck—much more flexible than Web2 or using CDs with data on, which means having the same program on two or more computers.

I think a first this year was seeing the first “beginning to be usable by the ordinary person” version of Chandler. Worth following in the new year.

MyInfo has progressed nicely in v4 in the last year, but still needs to develop a hoist mechanism and easier use of its web features. But MI and Zoot are my two main programs now.

I have been disappointed in the changes to MDE InfoHandler 2008 version which is a real makeover from version 10. I had promised Manfred I would give 2008 a real try for a month to see if I can get on to it, but just haven’‘t had the time. I think there’s a lot of concern and controversy among IH users over the changes. I will try, nonetheless, to keep my promise to Manfred.

It seems to me from what I have seen in the UR forums and other places on the net that some of the bloom has come off the UltraRecall rose because of database issues and structure.

In terms of desktop search, I’ve been pissed off at just about any program I have tried, free or otherwise. Am now testing X1, and think it may well be worth the cost.

Daly

PS And Arne and Eric, if you guys are still hoping to develop ADM, I would love to test future builds and, if you can get to market, start using it again. By the way don’t forget to write.

Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>I am wondering what this group thinks of as the top developments in the PIM/outliner
>world during the past 12 months. For me, two things stand out:
> >1. OneNote 2007 became
>commercially available in January.
>2. Zoot 4.5 (32-bit version) beta was released
>over the summer and continues to be refined.
> >I’m sure others of you have your own top
>developments. What are they?
> >Steve Z. 

 


Posted by Jan Rifkinson
Dec 26, 2007 at 06:10 PM

 

Daly de Gagne wrote:

>[snip] It seems to me from what I have seen
>in the UR forums and other places on the net that some of the bloom has come off the
>UltraRecall rose because of database issues and structure.[/snip]

Daly, In terms of gathering, manipulating, linking & finding items within the total data spectrum, i.e. of all kinds of data, I’m not sure any of products you’ve mentioned hold a candle to Ultra Recall.

Having said that, IMO, it is rather difficult to compare apples & oranges which is what both your & my comments represent based on our opinions about both product architecture and personal need.

I use UR every day & haven’t had any database issues. The only data loss I thought I had encountered was caused by my own stupidity: opening an earlier version of my database.
And as a constant visitor to the forum—I don’t see any more / less interest./ disappointment in the product.

What I do see is constant, careful, steady, organized development with good technical support.

Could it use some more options? You bet. Are they coming? I believe so. There is a roadmap @ http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3204 last updated in Novemeber in case you or another reader is interested.

Happy New Year to you Daly.


Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA

 


Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Dec 26, 2007 at 07:03 PM

 

Daly,

Your comment about carrying your information around your neck reminds me that I too have started doing that. So in a way, 2007 could be the year USB-based information management became truly viable, as many of the major PIMs added USB support.

I have to shuffle information among my office and home desktop computers as well as my laptop computer. OneNote works well for this, as it has a powerful and easy-to-use sync component, but you did need to have ON installed on all computers, so that isn’t a viable alternative for use on computers outside my three. I was using a small, free wiki program called Notebook, which worked reasonably well, but didn’t have the power I needed. When MyInfo came out with its latest version that supports USB installation, I tried that, but was disenchanted when I couldn’t import CSV information into it. So I’ve now settled on the portable version of Evernote, which is working nicely so far.

So, yes, one of the major developments in the PIM/outliner world in 2007 could easily be portability.

Steve Z.

Daly de Gagne wrote:
>I like looking at them and playing,
>but this year I have got into USB sticks and carrying everything around my neck—much
>more flexible than Web2 or using CDs with data on, which means having the same program
>on two or more computers.
>

 


Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Dec 27, 2007 at 09:58 AM

 

Jan Rifkinson wrote:
>I use UR every day & haven’t had any database issues.

Same here. If there’s one thing ‘wrong’ with UtraRecall that might be the outline tree paradigm which can become overcluttered. But as far as the implementation itself is concerned I find it impeccable.

I would note that I specifically started a thread here at some point to see whether there were any real issues (e.g. data loss, stability etc) encountered with UltraRecall and there were none.

alx

 


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